Extended Education and the Feminization of Society

Dusk In Autumn sometimes writes about the way adults strive to retard the natural maturation of teenagers and young adults, to artificially extend childhood. I was thinking about this because he posted about it a couple of days ago, plus the unhealthiness of stretching “education” far into what should be the productive years of adulthood is always in my mind.

The fact is, the artificial prolonging of childhood into the 20’s is part of the encroaching matriarchy. Think about it. Women were designed by nature itself to deal with children. Children are the only humans who are less powerful than women. Of course women feel comfortable dealing with children!

It’s no wonder that women allowed power in society will try to turn everybody into children.

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36 Responses to “Extended Education and the Feminization of Society”

  1. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    The problem might be self-correcting. Although some high-tech training, such as medicine, may require many years of training, one cannot operate high-tech facilities without low-tech infrastructure – e.g. running water.

    When a society runs out of competent plumbers, people stop asking about whether a prospective plumber has a degree in plumbing, and just ask whether he can indeed stop pipes from leaking.

    You are probably aware of F. Roger Devlin’s comments on education — anyone who can graduate with a degree in politely sitting still in a classroom is a certified drudge.

  2. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    The problem might be self-correcting. Although some high-tech training, such as medicine, may require many years of training, one cannot operate high-tech facilities without low-tech infrastructure – e.g. running water.

    When a society runs out of competent plumbers, people stop asking about whether a prospective plumber has a degree in plumbing, and just ask whether he can indeed stop pipes from leaking.

    You are probably aware of F. Roger Devlin’s comments on education — anyone who can graduate with a degree in politely sitting still in a classroom is a certified drudge.

  3. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    The problem might be self-correcting. Although some high-tech training, such as medicine, may require many years of training, one cannot operate high-tech facilities without low-tech infrastructure – e.g. running water.

    When a society runs out of competent plumbers, people stop asking about whether a prospective plumber has a degree in plumbing, and just ask whether he can indeed stop pipes from leaking.

    You are probably aware of F. Roger Devlin’s comments on education — anyone who can graduate with a degree in politely sitting still in a classroom is a certified drudge.

  4. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    Your comment concerning the matriarchy fits. Some of the women who work most assiduously to stamp out common sense and patriarchy are academics, although many of them lack the gumption to acquire doctorates. They cannot reach great heights, but they can kick away the ladder to cripple their students. They are the Nanny Statists, and as much as they hate little boys, they hate men more.

  5. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    Your comment concerning the matriarchy fits. Some of the women who work most assiduously to stamp out common sense and patriarchy are academics, although many of them lack the gumption to acquire doctorates. They cannot reach great heights, but they can kick away the ladder to cripple their students. They are the Nanny Statists, and as much as they hate little boys, they hate men more.

  6. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    Your comment concerning the matriarchy fits. Some of the women who work most assiduously to stamp out common sense and patriarchy are academics, although many of them lack the gumption to acquire doctorates. They cannot reach great heights, but they can kick away the ladder to cripple their students. They are the Nanny Statists, and as much as they hate little boys, they hate men more.

  7. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    SCS, you may well be right. Let’s hope so.

    Where did Devlin say that? I hadn’t read it before that I recall, but he’s certainly right.

  8. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    SCS, you may well be right. Let’s hope so.

    Where did Devlin say that? I hadn’t read it before that I recall, but he’s certainly right.

  9. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    SCS, you may well be right. Let’s hope so.

    Where did Devlin say that? I hadn’t read it before that I recall, but he’s certainly right.

  10. ntk Says:

    Hi MCW,

    Devlin quotes someone else saying that in his essay:

    The Academy: Reform or Secession?.

  11. ntk Says:

    Hi MCW,

    Devlin quotes someone else saying that in his essay:

    The Academy: Reform or Secession?.

  12. ntk Says:

    Hi MCW,

    Devlin quotes someone else saying that in his essay:

    The Academy: Reform or Secession?.

  13. Artfldgr Says:

    ah, but wait till the big boys from somewhere else shows up!

    after all, who ended up being beaten down all the time, the mommas boy, or the masculine boy who stands up for themselves when there is no other acceptable choice?

  14. Artfldgr Says:

    ah, but wait till the big boys from somewhere else shows up!

    after all, who ended up being beaten down all the time, the mommas boy, or the masculine boy who stands up for themselves when there is no other acceptable choice?

  15. Artfldgr Says:

    ah, but wait till the big boys from somewhere else shows up!

    after all, who ended up being beaten down all the time, the mommas boy, or the masculine boy who stands up for themselves when there is no other acceptable choice?

  16. Artfldgr Says:

    some interesting reading:
    http://www.ourcivilisation.com/study.htm

    he notes the matrist patrist thing as well…

    but even more interesting is to read hitler, who talks about the population masses as if it was a woman, not a man…

    ADOLF HITLER was a narcissistic bully in thrall to a dominant father and with a neurosis about women, according to a newly disclosed psychological analysis drawn up for US intelligence during the Second World War.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1078773.ece

    they refer to a series of papers that murray wrote for the precursor to the cia.

    library.lawschool.cornell.edu/WhatWeHave/SpecialCollections/Donovan/Hitler/upload/Hitler-Section1.pdf

    page 5, hitler has many weaknesses. there is a large feminine compoentn to his constitution. as a child he was frail and sickley, emotionally dependent on his mother. he never did any manual work, never engaged in athletics, was turned down as forever unfit for conscription in the austrian army. afraid of his father, hs behavior is outwardly submissive, and later he was annoyinly subservient to his superior officers. etc..

    It is significant that although Germans, as a whole, invariably refer to Germany as the “Fatherland”, Hitler almost always refers to it as the “Motherland.

    (so did stalin, i dont know about obama).

    Germany became a symbol of his ideal mother and his sentiments are clearly expressed in his writings and speeches. A few excerpts will serve to illustrate the transfer of emotion:

    “The longing grew stronger to go there (Germany) where since my early youth I had been drawn by secret wishes and secret love.”

    “What I first had looked upon as an impassable chasm now spurred me on to greater love for my country than ever before.”

    “An unnatural separation from the great common Motherland.”

    “I appeal to those who, severed from the Motherland, …and who now in painful emotion long for the hour that will allow them to return to the arms of the beloved mother.”

    to read the report on his coprophilia and vegetarianism would make most lefties go beserk

    We can surmise from the psychological defenses Hitler has set up, that there was a period during which he struggled against these tendencies. In terms of unconscious symbolism meat is almost synonomous with faeces and beer with urine.
    It has been reported that Hitler once said that he was confident that all nations would arrive at the point where they would not feed any more on dead animals. It is interesting to note that according to one of our most reliable informants Hitler only became a real vegetarian after the death of his niece, Geli. In clinical practice, one almost invariably finds compulsive vegetarianism setting in after the death of a loved object.

    ah, but the paragraphs on femininity and homosexuality are very interesting, the least of which is the talks hitler gave with how to woo the masses…

    The belief that Hitler is homosexual has probably developed (a) from the fact that he does show so many feminine characteristics, and (b) from the fact that there were so many homosexuals in the Party during the early days and many continue to occupy important positions. It does seem that Hitler feels much more at ease with homosexuals than with normal persons, but this may be due to the fact that they are all fundamentally social outcasts and consequently have a community of interests which tends to make them think and feel more or less alike. In this connection it is interesting to note that homosexuals, too, frequently regard themselves as a special form of creation or as chosen ones whose destiny it is to initiate a new order.

    The fact that underneath they feel themselves to be different and ostracized from normal social contacts usually makes them easy converts to a new social philosophy which does not discriminate against them. Being among civilization’s discontents, they are always willing to take a chance of something new which holds any promise of improving their lot, even though their chances of success may be small and the risk great. Having little to lose to begin with, they can afford to take chances which others would refrain from taking. The early Nazi party certainly contained many members who could be regarded in this light. Even today Hitler derives pleasure from looking at men’s bodies and associating with homosexuals. Strasser tells us that his personal body guard is almost always 100% homosexuals.

    “Social democracy…directs a bombardment of lies and calumnies towards the adversary who seemed most dangerous, till finally the nerves of those who have been attacked give out and they for the sake of peace, bow down to the hated enemy.”

    “In the end, only the urge for self-preservation will eternally succeed. Under its pressure so-called ‘humanity’, as the expression of a mixture of stupidity, cowardice, and imaginary superior intelligence, will melt like snow under the March sun.”

    “We must distrust the intelligence and the conscience and must place our faith in our instincts.”

    under fear of domination:
    “He is afraid of logic. Like a woman he evades the issue and ends by throwing in your face an argument entirely remote from what you were talking about.”

    in MEIN KAMPF he writes:

    “The people, in an overwhelming majority, are so feminine in their nature and attitude that their activities and thoughts are motivated less by sober consideration than by feeling and sentiment.”

    In other words, his uconscious frame of reference, when addressing a huge audience, is fundamentally that of talking to a woman.

    Heyst writes:

    “In his speeches we hear the suppressed voice of passion and wooing which is taken from the language of love; he utters a cry of hate and voluptousness, a spasm of violence and cruelty. All those tones and sounds are taken from the back-streets of the instincts; they remind us of dark impulses repressed too long.”

    And Hitler himself says:

    “Passion alone will give to him, who is chosen by her, the words that, like beats of a hammer, are able to open the doors to the heart of a people.”

    “Since the events of last year, his faith in his own genius, in his instinct, or as one might say, in his star, is boundless. Those who surround him are the first to admit that he now thinks himself infallible and invincible. That explains why he can no longer bear either criticism or contradiction. To contradict him is in his eyes a crime of ‘lese majeste’; opposition to his plans, from whatever side it may come, is a definite sacrilege, to which the only reply is an immediate and striking display of his omnipotence.” (French Yellow Book, 945)

    “Was this provincial dandy, with his slick dark hair, his cutaway coat, his awkward gestures and glib tongue, the terrible rebel? He seemed for all the world like a travelling salesman for a clothing firm.” (642)

    “The psyche of the broad masses does not respond to anything weak or half-way. Like a woman, whose spiritual sensitiveness is determined less by abstract reason than by an indefinable emotional longing for fulfilling power and who, for that reason, prefers to submit to the strong rather than the weakling – the mass, too, prefers the ruler to a pleader.”

    again, the feminine…

    “Women faint, when, with face purpled and contorted with effort, he blows forth his magic oratory.” – newsweek

    “He was a man transformed and possessed. We were in the presence of a miracle.” Yeates-Brown

    “When, at the climax, he sways from one side to the, other his listeners sway with him; when he leans forward they also lean forward and when he concludes they either are awed and silent or on their feet in a frenzy.”

    Another trait which has received a great deal of comment in the propaganda build-up is Hitler’s modesty and simplicity. His successes have never gone to his head. At bottom he is still the simple soul he was when he founded the Party and his greatest Joy is to be considered as “one of the boys”.

    “Hitler is a modest man – and the world needs modest men. Therefore the people love him. Like every good leader, he must be an efficient follower. He makes himself the humblest disciple of himself, the severest of all disciplinarians with himself. In fact, Hitler is a modern monk, with the three knots of Poverty, Chastity and Obedience tied in his invisible girdle. A zealot among zealots., He eats no meat, drinks no wine, does not smoke. I am told he takes for himself no salary but lives privately from the income of his book, `Mein Kampf’ … Surplus funds he turns back to the S.A. His work day consists of eighteen hours, usually, and he often falls asleap in the last hour of his work. There have been four woman in his life – but only to help him along with service and money . . . He once gave a lecture at Bayreuth on Wagner and `Deutsche Liedot’ that astounded the musical critics and revealed him as a musical scholar of parts … Sheer opportunism never lured him as much as the opportunity to preach his doctrines. His quality is Messianic; his spiritual trend is ascetic; his reaction is medieval …” Phillips: Germany Today and Tomorrow. (868)

    “Hitler’s word is God’s law, the decrees and laws which represent it possess divine authority.” (550)

    “There has arisen a new authority as to what Christ and Christianity really are – that is Adolph Hitler. Adolph Hitler … is the true Holy Ghost.” (749)

    “At Garmisch I met an American from Chicago. He had been at Oberammergau, at the Passion Play. ‘These people are all crazy,’ he said. ‘This is not a revolution, it’s a revival. They think Hitler is God. Believe it or not, a German woman sat next to me at the Passion Play and when the hoisted Jesus on the Cross, she said, ‘There he is. That is our Fuehrer, our Hitler.’ And when they paid out the thirty pieces of silver to Judas, she said ‘That is Roehm, who betrayed the Leader.'” ( 568 )

    and rather than go on creeping everyone out as to how similar the current man and hitler are…

    here is the last two lines for feminine and hitler, it was said by hanfstaengle quoting hitler to himself, and from hitler from mein kampf. its part of a list of over 20 special abilities that define how he was able to take control and lead, to read that list is to get real creeped out.

    He has been able, in some manner or other, to unearth and apply successfully many factors pertaining to group psychology, the importance of which has not been generally recognized and some of which we might adopt to good advantage. These might be briefly summarized as follows:

    (1) Full appreciation of the importance of the masses in the success of any movement. Hitler has phrased this rather well in MEIN KAMPF:

    “The lack of knowledge of the [unreadable] driving forces of [unreadable] led us to an insufficient evaluation of the importance of the great masses of the people; from this resulted the scant interest in the social position, the deficient courting [unreadable] soul of the nation’s lower classes….” (p. 138)

    (2) Recognition of the inestimable value of winning the support of youth; realization of the immense momentum given a social movement by the wild fervor and enthusiasm of young people as well as the importance of early training and indoctrination.

    (3) Recognition of the role of women in advancing a new movement and of the fact that the reactions of the masses as a whole have many feminine characteristics. As early as 1923, he said to Hanfstaengl (902):

    “Do you know the audience at a circus is just like a woman (Die Masse, das Volk is wei ein Weib). Someone who does not understand the intrinsicly feminine character of the masses will never be an effective speaker. Ask yourself: ‘What does a woman expect from a man?’ Clearness, decision, power and action. What we want is to get the masses to act. Like a woman, the masses fluctuate between extremes …. The crowd is not only like a woman, but women constitute the most important element in an audience. The women usualy lead, then follow the children and at last, when I have already won over the whole family – follow the fathers.”

    And in MEIN KAMPF, he writes:

    “The people, in an overwhelming majority, are so feminine in their nature and attitude that their activities and thoughts are motivated less by sober consideration than by feeling and sentiment.” (p.237)

    too bad we dont know our history any more… we would be very afraid instead of hopeful.

  17. Artfldgr Says:

    some interesting reading:
    http://www.ourcivilisation.com/study.htm

    he notes the matrist patrist thing as well…

    but even more interesting is to read hitler, who talks about the population masses as if it was a woman, not a man…

    ADOLF HITLER was a narcissistic bully in thrall to a dominant father and with a neurosis about women, according to a newly disclosed psychological analysis drawn up for US intelligence during the Second World War.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1078773.ece

    they refer to a series of papers that murray wrote for the precursor to the cia.

    library.lawschool.cornell.edu/WhatWeHave/SpecialCollections/Donovan/Hitler/upload/Hitler-Section1.pdf

    page 5, hitler has many weaknesses. there is a large feminine compoentn to his constitution. as a child he was frail and sickley, emotionally dependent on his mother. he never did any manual work, never engaged in athletics, was turned down as forever unfit for conscription in the austrian army. afraid of his father, hs behavior is outwardly submissive, and later he was annoyinly subservient to his superior officers. etc..

    It is significant that although Germans, as a whole, invariably refer to Germany as the “Fatherland”, Hitler almost always refers to it as the “Motherland.

    (so did stalin, i dont know about obama).

    Germany became a symbol of his ideal mother and his sentiments are clearly expressed in his writings and speeches. A few excerpts will serve to illustrate the transfer of emotion:

    “The longing grew stronger to go there (Germany) where since my early youth I had been drawn by secret wishes and secret love.”

    “What I first had looked upon as an impassable chasm now spurred me on to greater love for my country than ever before.”

    “An unnatural separation from the great common Motherland.”

    “I appeal to those who, severed from the Motherland, …and who now in painful emotion long for the hour that will allow them to return to the arms of the beloved mother.”

    to read the report on his coprophilia and vegetarianism would make most lefties go beserk

    We can surmise from the psychological defenses Hitler has set up, that there was a period during which he struggled against these tendencies. In terms of unconscious symbolism meat is almost synonomous with faeces and beer with urine.
    It has been reported that Hitler once said that he was confident that all nations would arrive at the point where they would not feed any more on dead animals. It is interesting to note that according to one of our most reliable informants Hitler only became a real vegetarian after the death of his niece, Geli. In clinical practice, one almost invariably finds compulsive vegetarianism setting in after the death of a loved object.

    ah, but the paragraphs on femininity and homosexuality are very interesting, the least of which is the talks hitler gave with how to woo the masses…

    The belief that Hitler is homosexual has probably developed (a) from the fact that he does show so many feminine characteristics, and (b) from the fact that there were so many homosexuals in the Party during the early days and many continue to occupy important positions. It does seem that Hitler feels much more at ease with homosexuals than with normal persons, but this may be due to the fact that they are all fundamentally social outcasts and consequently have a community of interests which tends to make them think and feel more or less alike. In this connection it is interesting to note that homosexuals, too, frequently regard themselves as a special form of creation or as chosen ones whose destiny it is to initiate a new order.

    The fact that underneath they feel themselves to be different and ostracized from normal social contacts usually makes them easy converts to a new social philosophy which does not discriminate against them. Being among civilization’s discontents, they are always willing to take a chance of something new which holds any promise of improving their lot, even though their chances of success may be small and the risk great. Having little to lose to begin with, they can afford to take chances which others would refrain from taking. The early Nazi party certainly contained many members who could be regarded in this light. Even today Hitler derives pleasure from looking at men’s bodies and associating with homosexuals. Strasser tells us that his personal body guard is almost always 100% homosexuals.

    “Social democracy…directs a bombardment of lies and calumnies towards the adversary who seemed most dangerous, till finally the nerves of those who have been attacked give out and they for the sake of peace, bow down to the hated enemy.”

    “In the end, only the urge for self-preservation will eternally succeed. Under its pressure so-called ‘humanity’, as the expression of a mixture of stupidity, cowardice, and imaginary superior intelligence, will melt like snow under the March sun.”

    “We must distrust the intelligence and the conscience and must place our faith in our instincts.”

    under fear of domination:
    “He is afraid of logic. Like a woman he evades the issue and ends by throwing in your face an argument entirely remote from what you were talking about.”

    in MEIN KAMPF he writes:

    “The people, in an overwhelming majority, are so feminine in their nature and attitude that their activities and thoughts are motivated less by sober consideration than by feeling and sentiment.”

    In other words, his uconscious frame of reference, when addressing a huge audience, is fundamentally that of talking to a woman.

    Heyst writes:

    “In his speeches we hear the suppressed voice of passion and wooing which is taken from the language of love; he utters a cry of hate and voluptousness, a spasm of violence and cruelty. All those tones and sounds are taken from the back-streets of the instincts; they remind us of dark impulses repressed too long.”

    And Hitler himself says:

    “Passion alone will give to him, who is chosen by her, the words that, like beats of a hammer, are able to open the doors to the heart of a people.”

    “Since the events of last year, his faith in his own genius, in his instinct, or as one might say, in his star, is boundless. Those who surround him are the first to admit that he now thinks himself infallible and invincible. That explains why he can no longer bear either criticism or contradiction. To contradict him is in his eyes a crime of ‘lese majeste’; opposition to his plans, from whatever side it may come, is a definite sacrilege, to which the only reply is an immediate and striking display of his omnipotence.” (French Yellow Book, 945)

    “Was this provincial dandy, with his slick dark hair, his cutaway coat, his awkward gestures and glib tongue, the terrible rebel? He seemed for all the world like a travelling salesman for a clothing firm.” (642)

    “The psyche of the broad masses does not respond to anything weak or half-way. Like a woman, whose spiritual sensitiveness is determined less by abstract reason than by an indefinable emotional longing for fulfilling power and who, for that reason, prefers to submit to the strong rather than the weakling – the mass, too, prefers the ruler to a pleader.”

    again, the feminine…

    “Women faint, when, with face purpled and contorted with effort, he blows forth his magic oratory.” – newsweek

    “He was a man transformed and possessed. We were in the presence of a miracle.” Yeates-Brown

    “When, at the climax, he sways from one side to the, other his listeners sway with him; when he leans forward they also lean forward and when he concludes they either are awed and silent or on their feet in a frenzy.”

    Another trait which has received a great deal of comment in the propaganda build-up is Hitler’s modesty and simplicity. His successes have never gone to his head. At bottom he is still the simple soul he was when he founded the Party and his greatest Joy is to be considered as “one of the boys”.

    “Hitler is a modest man – and the world needs modest men. Therefore the people love him. Like every good leader, he must be an efficient follower. He makes himself the humblest disciple of himself, the severest of all disciplinarians with himself. In fact, Hitler is a modern monk, with the three knots of Poverty, Chastity and Obedience tied in his invisible girdle. A zealot among zealots., He eats no meat, drinks no wine, does not smoke. I am told he takes for himself no salary but lives privately from the income of his book, `Mein Kampf’ … Surplus funds he turns back to the S.A. His work day consists of eighteen hours, usually, and he often falls asleap in the last hour of his work. There have been four woman in his life – but only to help him along with service and money . . . He once gave a lecture at Bayreuth on Wagner and `Deutsche Liedot’ that astounded the musical critics and revealed him as a musical scholar of parts … Sheer opportunism never lured him as much as the opportunity to preach his doctrines. His quality is Messianic; his spiritual trend is ascetic; his reaction is medieval …” Phillips: Germany Today and Tomorrow. (868)

    “Hitler’s word is God’s law, the decrees and laws which represent it possess divine authority.” (550)

    “There has arisen a new authority as to what Christ and Christianity really are – that is Adolph Hitler. Adolph Hitler … is the true Holy Ghost.” (749)

    “At Garmisch I met an American from Chicago. He had been at Oberammergau, at the Passion Play. ‘These people are all crazy,’ he said. ‘This is not a revolution, it’s a revival. They think Hitler is God. Believe it or not, a German woman sat next to me at the Passion Play and when the hoisted Jesus on the Cross, she said, ‘There he is. That is our Fuehrer, our Hitler.’ And when they paid out the thirty pieces of silver to Judas, she said ‘That is Roehm, who betrayed the Leader.'” ( 568 )

    and rather than go on creeping everyone out as to how similar the current man and hitler are…

    here is the last two lines for feminine and hitler, it was said by hanfstaengle quoting hitler to himself, and from hitler from mein kampf. its part of a list of over 20 special abilities that define how he was able to take control and lead, to read that list is to get real creeped out.

    He has been able, in some manner or other, to unearth and apply successfully many factors pertaining to group psychology, the importance of which has not been generally recognized and some of which we might adopt to good advantage. These might be briefly summarized as follows:

    (1) Full appreciation of the importance of the masses in the success of any movement. Hitler has phrased this rather well in MEIN KAMPF:

    “The lack of knowledge of the [unreadable] driving forces of [unreadable] led us to an insufficient evaluation of the importance of the great masses of the people; from this resulted the scant interest in the social position, the deficient courting [unreadable] soul of the nation’s lower classes….” (p. 138)

    (2) Recognition of the inestimable value of winning the support of youth; realization of the immense momentum given a social movement by the wild fervor and enthusiasm of young people as well as the importance of early training and indoctrination.

    (3) Recognition of the role of women in advancing a new movement and of the fact that the reactions of the masses as a whole have many feminine characteristics. As early as 1923, he said to Hanfstaengl (902):

    “Do you know the audience at a circus is just like a woman (Die Masse, das Volk is wei ein Weib). Someone who does not understand the intrinsicly feminine character of the masses will never be an effective speaker. Ask yourself: ‘What does a woman expect from a man?’ Clearness, decision, power and action. What we want is to get the masses to act. Like a woman, the masses fluctuate between extremes …. The crowd is not only like a woman, but women constitute the most important element in an audience. The women usualy lead, then follow the children and at last, when I have already won over the whole family – follow the fathers.”

    And in MEIN KAMPF, he writes:

    “The people, in an overwhelming majority, are so feminine in their nature and attitude that their activities and thoughts are motivated less by sober consideration than by feeling and sentiment.” (p.237)

    too bad we dont know our history any more… we would be very afraid instead of hopeful.

  18. Artfldgr Says:

    some interesting reading:
    http://www.ourcivilisation.com/study.htm

    he notes the matrist patrist thing as well…

    but even more interesting is to read hitler, who talks about the population masses as if it was a woman, not a man…

    ADOLF HITLER was a narcissistic bully in thrall to a dominant father and with a neurosis about women, according to a newly disclosed psychological analysis drawn up for US intelligence during the Second World War.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1078773.ece

    they refer to a series of papers that murray wrote for the precursor to the cia.

    library.lawschool.cornell.edu/WhatWeHave/SpecialCollections/Donovan/Hitler/upload/Hitler-Section1.pdf

    page 5, hitler has many weaknesses. there is a large feminine compoentn to his constitution. as a child he was frail and sickley, emotionally dependent on his mother. he never did any manual work, never engaged in athletics, was turned down as forever unfit for conscription in the austrian army. afraid of his father, hs behavior is outwardly submissive, and later he was annoyinly subservient to his superior officers. etc..

    It is significant that although Germans, as a whole, invariably refer to Germany as the “Fatherland”, Hitler almost always refers to it as the “Motherland.

    (so did stalin, i dont know about obama).

    Germany became a symbol of his ideal mother and his sentiments are clearly expressed in his writings and speeches. A few excerpts will serve to illustrate the transfer of emotion:

    “The longing grew stronger to go there (Germany) where since my early youth I had been drawn by secret wishes and secret love.”

    “What I first had looked upon as an impassable chasm now spurred me on to greater love for my country than ever before.”

    “An unnatural separation from the great common Motherland.”

    “I appeal to those who, severed from the Motherland, …and who now in painful emotion long for the hour that will allow them to return to the arms of the beloved mother.”

    to read the report on his coprophilia and vegetarianism would make most lefties go beserk

    We can surmise from the psychological defenses Hitler has set up, that there was a period during which he struggled against these tendencies. In terms of unconscious symbolism meat is almost synonomous with faeces and beer with urine.
    It has been reported that Hitler once said that he was confident that all nations would arrive at the point where they would not feed any more on dead animals. It is interesting to note that according to one of our most reliable informants Hitler only became a real vegetarian after the death of his niece, Geli. In clinical practice, one almost invariably finds compulsive vegetarianism setting in after the death of a loved object.

    ah, but the paragraphs on femininity and homosexuality are very interesting, the least of which is the talks hitler gave with how to woo the masses…

    The belief that Hitler is homosexual has probably developed (a) from the fact that he does show so many feminine characteristics, and (b) from the fact that there were so many homosexuals in the Party during the early days and many continue to occupy important positions. It does seem that Hitler feels much more at ease with homosexuals than with normal persons, but this may be due to the fact that they are all fundamentally social outcasts and consequently have a community of interests which tends to make them think and feel more or less alike. In this connection it is interesting to note that homosexuals, too, frequently regard themselves as a special form of creation or as chosen ones whose destiny it is to initiate a new order.

    The fact that underneath they feel themselves to be different and ostracized from normal social contacts usually makes them easy converts to a new social philosophy which does not discriminate against them. Being among civilization’s discontents, they are always willing to take a chance of something new which holds any promise of improving their lot, even though their chances of success may be small and the risk great. Having little to lose to begin with, they can afford to take chances which others would refrain from taking. The early Nazi party certainly contained many members who could be regarded in this light. Even today Hitler derives pleasure from looking at men’s bodies and associating with homosexuals. Strasser tells us that his personal body guard is almost always 100% homosexuals.

    “Social democracy…directs a bombardment of lies and calumnies towards the adversary who seemed most dangerous, till finally the nerves of those who have been attacked give out and they for the sake of peace, bow down to the hated enemy.”

    “In the end, only the urge for self-preservation will eternally succeed. Under its pressure so-called ‘humanity’, as the expression of a mixture of stupidity, cowardice, and imaginary superior intelligence, will melt like snow under the March sun.”

    “We must distrust the intelligence and the conscience and must place our faith in our instincts.”

    under fear of domination:
    “He is afraid of logic. Like a woman he evades the issue and ends by throwing in your face an argument entirely remote from what you were talking about.”

    in MEIN KAMPF he writes:

    “The people, in an overwhelming majority, are so feminine in their nature and attitude that their activities and thoughts are motivated less by sober consideration than by feeling and sentiment.”

    In other words, his uconscious frame of reference, when addressing a huge audience, is fundamentally that of talking to a woman.

    Heyst writes:

    “In his speeches we hear the suppressed voice of passion and wooing which is taken from the language of love; he utters a cry of hate and voluptousness, a spasm of violence and cruelty. All those tones and sounds are taken from the back-streets of the instincts; they remind us of dark impulses repressed too long.”

    And Hitler himself says:

    “Passion alone will give to him, who is chosen by her, the words that, like beats of a hammer, are able to open the doors to the heart of a people.”

    “Since the events of last year, his faith in his own genius, in his instinct, or as one might say, in his star, is boundless. Those who surround him are the first to admit that he now thinks himself infallible and invincible. That explains why he can no longer bear either criticism or contradiction. To contradict him is in his eyes a crime of ‘lese majeste’; opposition to his plans, from whatever side it may come, is a definite sacrilege, to which the only reply is an immediate and striking display of his omnipotence.” (French Yellow Book, 945)

    “Was this provincial dandy, with his slick dark hair, his cutaway coat, his awkward gestures and glib tongue, the terrible rebel? He seemed for all the world like a travelling salesman for a clothing firm.” (642)

    “The psyche of the broad masses does not respond to anything weak or half-way. Like a woman, whose spiritual sensitiveness is determined less by abstract reason than by an indefinable emotional longing for fulfilling power and who, for that reason, prefers to submit to the strong rather than the weakling – the mass, too, prefers the ruler to a pleader.”

    again, the feminine…

    “Women faint, when, with face purpled and contorted with effort, he blows forth his magic oratory.” – newsweek

    “He was a man transformed and possessed. We were in the presence of a miracle.” Yeates-Brown

    “When, at the climax, he sways from one side to the, other his listeners sway with him; when he leans forward they also lean forward and when he concludes they either are awed and silent or on their feet in a frenzy.”

    Another trait which has received a great deal of comment in the propaganda build-up is Hitler’s modesty and simplicity. His successes have never gone to his head. At bottom he is still the simple soul he was when he founded the Party and his greatest Joy is to be considered as “one of the boys”.

    “Hitler is a modest man – and the world needs modest men. Therefore the people love him. Like every good leader, he must be an efficient follower. He makes himself the humblest disciple of himself, the severest of all disciplinarians with himself. In fact, Hitler is a modern monk, with the three knots of Poverty, Chastity and Obedience tied in his invisible girdle. A zealot among zealots., He eats no meat, drinks no wine, does not smoke. I am told he takes for himself no salary but lives privately from the income of his book, `Mein Kampf’ … Surplus funds he turns back to the S.A. His work day consists of eighteen hours, usually, and he often falls asleap in the last hour of his work. There have been four woman in his life – but only to help him along with service and money . . . He once gave a lecture at Bayreuth on Wagner and `Deutsche Liedot’ that astounded the musical critics and revealed him as a musical scholar of parts … Sheer opportunism never lured him as much as the opportunity to preach his doctrines. His quality is Messianic; his spiritual trend is ascetic; his reaction is medieval …” Phillips: Germany Today and Tomorrow. (868)

    “Hitler’s word is God’s law, the decrees and laws which represent it possess divine authority.” (550)

    “There has arisen a new authority as to what Christ and Christianity really are – that is Adolph Hitler. Adolph Hitler … is the true Holy Ghost.” (749)

    “At Garmisch I met an American from Chicago. He had been at Oberammergau, at the Passion Play. ‘These people are all crazy,’ he said. ‘This is not a revolution, it’s a revival. They think Hitler is God. Believe it or not, a German woman sat next to me at the Passion Play and when the hoisted Jesus on the Cross, she said, ‘There he is. That is our Fuehrer, our Hitler.’ And when they paid out the thirty pieces of silver to Judas, she said ‘That is Roehm, who betrayed the Leader.'” ( 568 )

    and rather than go on creeping everyone out as to how similar the current man and hitler are…

    here is the last two lines for feminine and hitler, it was said by hanfstaengle quoting hitler to himself, and from hitler from mein kampf. its part of a list of over 20 special abilities that define how he was able to take control and lead, to read that list is to get real creeped out.

    He has been able, in some manner or other, to unearth and apply successfully many factors pertaining to group psychology, the importance of which has not been generally recognized and some of which we might adopt to good advantage. These might be briefly summarized as follows:

    (1) Full appreciation of the importance of the masses in the success of any movement. Hitler has phrased this rather well in MEIN KAMPF:

    “The lack of knowledge of the [unreadable] driving forces of [unreadable] led us to an insufficient evaluation of the importance of the great masses of the people; from this resulted the scant interest in the social position, the deficient courting [unreadable] soul of the nation’s lower classes….” (p. 138)

    (2) Recognition of the inestimable value of winning the support of youth; realization of the immense momentum given a social movement by the wild fervor and enthusiasm of young people as well as the importance of early training and indoctrination.

    (3) Recognition of the role of women in advancing a new movement and of the fact that the reactions of the masses as a whole have many feminine characteristics. As early as 1923, he said to Hanfstaengl (902):

    “Do you know the audience at a circus is just like a woman (Die Masse, das Volk is wei ein Weib). Someone who does not understand the intrinsicly feminine character of the masses will never be an effective speaker. Ask yourself: ‘What does a woman expect from a man?’ Clearness, decision, power and action. What we want is to get the masses to act. Like a woman, the masses fluctuate between extremes …. The crowd is not only like a woman, but women constitute the most important element in an audience. The women usualy lead, then follow the children and at last, when I have already won over the whole family – follow the fathers.”

    And in MEIN KAMPF, he writes:

    “The people, in an overwhelming majority, are so feminine in their nature and attitude that their activities and thoughts are motivated less by sober consideration than by feeling and sentiment.” (p.237)

    too bad we dont know our history any more… we would be very afraid instead of hopeful.

  19. Artfldgr Says:

    off topic.. read and delete.. 🙂

    Feminazis Demand Cabinet Level Representative
    As left-wing extremists realize, the ascension of the Moonbat Messiah is a perfect opportunity to ram their depraved agenda down America’s throat. NOW is encouraging feminazis to petition The One for a cabinet-level Office of Women.

    The position won’t be necessary to advance NOW’s enthusiasm for abortion; only Heinrich Himmler could match Obama’s extremism on that topic. But it would help the bean-counters ensure that gender is considered before merit as a job qualification, and that publically educated boys grow up hating themselves for being chauvinist oppressors.

    If they get their cabinet seat, next will be the Office of Non-Caucasians, followed by the Office of Homosexuals, then the Office of the Differently Abled, the Office of Dwarves, et cetera ad nauseam.

  20. Artfldgr Says:

    off topic.. read and delete.. 🙂

    Feminazis Demand Cabinet Level Representative
    As left-wing extremists realize, the ascension of the Moonbat Messiah is a perfect opportunity to ram their depraved agenda down America’s throat. NOW is encouraging feminazis to petition The One for a cabinet-level Office of Women.

    The position won’t be necessary to advance NOW’s enthusiasm for abortion; only Heinrich Himmler could match Obama’s extremism on that topic. But it would help the bean-counters ensure that gender is considered before merit as a job qualification, and that publically educated boys grow up hating themselves for being chauvinist oppressors.

    If they get their cabinet seat, next will be the Office of Non-Caucasians, followed by the Office of Homosexuals, then the Office of the Differently Abled, the Office of Dwarves, et cetera ad nauseam.

  21. Artfldgr Says:

    off topic.. read and delete.. 🙂

    Feminazis Demand Cabinet Level Representative
    As left-wing extremists realize, the ascension of the Moonbat Messiah is a perfect opportunity to ram their depraved agenda down America’s throat. NOW is encouraging feminazis to petition The One for a cabinet-level Office of Women.

    The position won’t be necessary to advance NOW’s enthusiasm for abortion; only Heinrich Himmler could match Obama’s extremism on that topic. But it would help the bean-counters ensure that gender is considered before merit as a job qualification, and that publically educated boys grow up hating themselves for being chauvinist oppressors.

    If they get their cabinet seat, next will be the Office of Non-Caucasians, followed by the Office of Homosexuals, then the Office of the Differently Abled, the Office of Dwarves, et cetera ad nauseam.

  22. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    I’ve been looking for the source to that quote … I’ll let you know when I find it. Merry Christmas.

  23. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    I’ve been looking for the source to that quote … I’ll let you know when I find it. Merry Christmas.

  24. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    I’ve been looking for the source to that quote … I’ll let you know when I find it. Merry Christmas.

  25. Coffee Catholic Says:

    I agree wholeheartedly with this post! I’ve lived it!

    When I was 28 I was in college working towards a degree in geology. I suddenly hit a real low. My life felt like it had gone flatline. For several months I wondered why I felt so dull and lifeless and then I realized the problem: I wasn’t growing up. I was stuck in a perpetual childhood rut – kinda like a hampster in one of those big wheels, running, running, getting nowhere…

    I was almost 30 years old and I didn’t feel like a woman. I felt like a kid and I hated it.

    When I was 29 I dropped out of college to get married. Now, three years since leaving college, one husband, and one kid later, I finally feel like a grown woman.

  26. Coffee Catholic Says:

    I agree wholeheartedly with this post! I’ve lived it!

    When I was 28 I was in college working towards a degree in geology. I suddenly hit a real low. My life felt like it had gone flatline. For several months I wondered why I felt so dull and lifeless and then I realized the problem: I wasn’t growing up. I was stuck in a perpetual childhood rut – kinda like a hampster in one of those big wheels, running, running, getting nowhere…

    I was almost 30 years old and I didn’t feel like a woman. I felt like a kid and I hated it.

    When I was 29 I dropped out of college to get married. Now, three years since leaving college, one husband, and one kid later, I finally feel like a grown woman.

  27. Coffee Catholic Says:

    I agree wholeheartedly with this post! I’ve lived it!

    When I was 28 I was in college working towards a degree in geology. I suddenly hit a real low. My life felt like it had gone flatline. For several months I wondered why I felt so dull and lifeless and then I realized the problem: I wasn’t growing up. I was stuck in a perpetual childhood rut – kinda like a hampster in one of those big wheels, running, running, getting nowhere…

    I was almost 30 years old and I didn’t feel like a woman. I felt like a kid and I hated it.

    When I was 29 I dropped out of college to get married. Now, three years since leaving college, one husband, and one kid later, I finally feel like a grown woman.

  28. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    Here’s a sample from his article “Academia – Reform or Secession” (Occidental Quarterly, Vol 6 # 4) which I will be reviewing on my blog ASAP.

    One reason dismissal or denial of admission seems like punishment today
    is rampant credentialism in the workplace: the irrational overemphasis placed
    by employers on formal credentials as opposed to informally demonstrated
    abilities. Undeniably, a college diploma is now demanded for many types of
    work which never required one in the past. Let us consider why this is and
    whether it is necessary or inevitable. Were more desirable employment available
    to the ordinary high school graduate it would lower the present artifi cially
    infl ated demand for college admission.
    The essential point has been pithily expressed by columnist Gary North:
    “The degree is a screening device, not a training device.”5 In part, colleges
    screen for intelligence where businesses cannot, for fear of the racial parasitism
    racket. Recruiters specify “college graduates only” because, North writes,
    if they didn’t, the Equal Employment Opportunities Commission would
    take them to court for racial discrimination…There are state and Federal
    laws against businesses’ use of employment tests that screen for brains
    if the tests screen out racial minorities. [T]hese tests do in fact screen out
    disproportionate numbers of certain politically protected racial minori-
    ties…. So, elite businesses that want to attract the best and the brightest
    hire from the elite universities…The schools administer the tests at
    their expense….”Racial discrimination? Us? Perish the thought! We are
    ready to hire as many of Those People as Harvard or Yale or Princeton
    can produce.”
    As in all cases of political intervention, there are winners and losers; the
    gains for the less naturally gifted races come at the expense of those who have
    not completed college:
    [B]usinesses that would otherwise promote from inside the company dare
    not do this. They therefore discriminate against non-graduates…A cost
    has been imposed by this government-regulated employment system on
    people without a college degree. They are not given a shot at entry-level
    management jobs.
    This state of affairs should be explained to every young person entering
    college. The present undeniable economic value of a college degree is not
    natural or intrinsic, but a byproduct of unjust laws which violate traditional
    American liberties.
    Credentialism, however, is by no means exclusively due to racial politics;
    another factor is that many industries (not to speak of government) are now
    as bureaucratic as universities themselves, and place a premium on the sort
    of mindless routinism typifi ed by my ethics students. The modern corporate
    recruiter, explains North,
    wants to hire someone who will not quit [a] crummy entry-level job…He
    looks for someone who has done boring grunt work without complain-
    ing… A college graduate has shown that he has been willing to suffer
    enormous boredom, broken only by weekend parties, for fi ve or six
    years. (Very few students get through in four years…) Here is someone
    who…has put up with years of academic nonsense spouted by left-wing
    bureaucrats who could not hold a regular job in industry, let alone run
    a business. Here, in short, is a certifi ed drudge.
    The contemporary university, in other words, is the perfect screening
    program for reliable servants of the managerial regime, whether in its govern-
    mental or “private” branches. There might be better hope for internal reform
    if our universities were failing. The problem is that they are succeeding. The
    fi t between them and the larger society they serve is perfect.

  29. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    Here’s a sample from his article “Academia – Reform or Secession” (Occidental Quarterly, Vol 6 # 4) which I will be reviewing on my blog ASAP.

    One reason dismissal or denial of admission seems like punishment today
    is rampant credentialism in the workplace: the irrational overemphasis placed
    by employers on formal credentials as opposed to informally demonstrated
    abilities. Undeniably, a college diploma is now demanded for many types of
    work which never required one in the past. Let us consider why this is and
    whether it is necessary or inevitable. Were more desirable employment available
    to the ordinary high school graduate it would lower the present artifi cially
    infl ated demand for college admission.
    The essential point has been pithily expressed by columnist Gary North:
    “The degree is a screening device, not a training device.”5 In part, colleges
    screen for intelligence where businesses cannot, for fear of the racial parasitism
    racket. Recruiters specify “college graduates only” because, North writes,
    if they didn’t, the Equal Employment Opportunities Commission would
    take them to court for racial discrimination…There are state and Federal
    laws against businesses’ use of employment tests that screen for brains
    if the tests screen out racial minorities. [T]hese tests do in fact screen out
    disproportionate numbers of certain politically protected racial minori-
    ties…. So, elite businesses that want to attract the best and the brightest
    hire from the elite universities…The schools administer the tests at
    their expense….”Racial discrimination? Us? Perish the thought! We are
    ready to hire as many of Those People as Harvard or Yale or Princeton
    can produce.”
    As in all cases of political intervention, there are winners and losers; the
    gains for the less naturally gifted races come at the expense of those who have
    not completed college:
    [B]usinesses that would otherwise promote from inside the company dare
    not do this. They therefore discriminate against non-graduates…A cost
    has been imposed by this government-regulated employment system on
    people without a college degree. They are not given a shot at entry-level
    management jobs.
    This state of affairs should be explained to every young person entering
    college. The present undeniable economic value of a college degree is not
    natural or intrinsic, but a byproduct of unjust laws which violate traditional
    American liberties.
    Credentialism, however, is by no means exclusively due to racial politics;
    another factor is that many industries (not to speak of government) are now
    as bureaucratic as universities themselves, and place a premium on the sort
    of mindless routinism typifi ed by my ethics students. The modern corporate
    recruiter, explains North,
    wants to hire someone who will not quit [a] crummy entry-level job…He
    looks for someone who has done boring grunt work without complain-
    ing… A college graduate has shown that he has been willing to suffer
    enormous boredom, broken only by weekend parties, for fi ve or six
    years. (Very few students get through in four years…) Here is someone
    who…has put up with years of academic nonsense spouted by left-wing
    bureaucrats who could not hold a regular job in industry, let alone run
    a business. Here, in short, is a certifi ed drudge.
    The contemporary university, in other words, is the perfect screening
    program for reliable servants of the managerial regime, whether in its govern-
    mental or “private” branches. There might be better hope for internal reform
    if our universities were failing. The problem is that they are succeeding. The
    fi t between them and the larger society they serve is perfect.

  30. SellCivilizationShort Says:

    Here’s a sample from his article “Academia – Reform or Secession” (Occidental Quarterly, Vol 6 # 4) which I will be reviewing on my blog ASAP.

    One reason dismissal or denial of admission seems like punishment today
    is rampant credentialism in the workplace: the irrational overemphasis placed
    by employers on formal credentials as opposed to informally demonstrated
    abilities. Undeniably, a college diploma is now demanded for many types of
    work which never required one in the past. Let us consider why this is and
    whether it is necessary or inevitable. Were more desirable employment available
    to the ordinary high school graduate it would lower the present artifi cially
    infl ated demand for college admission.
    The essential point has been pithily expressed by columnist Gary North:
    “The degree is a screening device, not a training device.”5 In part, colleges
    screen for intelligence where businesses cannot, for fear of the racial parasitism
    racket. Recruiters specify “college graduates only” because, North writes,
    if they didn’t, the Equal Employment Opportunities Commission would
    take them to court for racial discrimination…There are state and Federal
    laws against businesses’ use of employment tests that screen for brains
    if the tests screen out racial minorities. [T]hese tests do in fact screen out
    disproportionate numbers of certain politically protected racial minori-
    ties…. So, elite businesses that want to attract the best and the brightest
    hire from the elite universities…The schools administer the tests at
    their expense….”Racial discrimination? Us? Perish the thought! We are
    ready to hire as many of Those People as Harvard or Yale or Princeton
    can produce.”
    As in all cases of political intervention, there are winners and losers; the
    gains for the less naturally gifted races come at the expense of those who have
    not completed college:
    [B]usinesses that would otherwise promote from inside the company dare
    not do this. They therefore discriminate against non-graduates…A cost
    has been imposed by this government-regulated employment system on
    people without a college degree. They are not given a shot at entry-level
    management jobs.
    This state of affairs should be explained to every young person entering
    college. The present undeniable economic value of a college degree is not
    natural or intrinsic, but a byproduct of unjust laws which violate traditional
    American liberties.
    Credentialism, however, is by no means exclusively due to racial politics;
    another factor is that many industries (not to speak of government) are now
    as bureaucratic as universities themselves, and place a premium on the sort
    of mindless routinism typifi ed by my ethics students. The modern corporate
    recruiter, explains North,
    wants to hire someone who will not quit [a] crummy entry-level job…He
    looks for someone who has done boring grunt work without complain-
    ing… A college graduate has shown that he has been willing to suffer
    enormous boredom, broken only by weekend parties, for fi ve or six
    years. (Very few students get through in four years…) Here is someone
    who…has put up with years of academic nonsense spouted by left-wing
    bureaucrats who could not hold a regular job in industry, let alone run
    a business. Here, in short, is a certifi ed drudge.
    The contemporary university, in other words, is the perfect screening
    program for reliable servants of the managerial regime, whether in its govern-
    mental or “private” branches. There might be better hope for internal reform
    if our universities were failing. The problem is that they are succeeding. The
    fi t between them and the larger society they serve is perfect.

  31. Christianj Says:

    Wow, another female seeing the light. I am truly amazed. I was of the opinion that women were so focussed on their victimhood that they had no other time for anything else..

    How refreshing..

  32. Christianj Says:

    Wow, another female seeing the light. I am truly amazed. I was of the opinion that women were so focussed on their victimhood that they had no other time for anything else..

    How refreshing..

  33. Christianj Says:

    Wow, another female seeing the light. I am truly amazed. I was of the opinion that women were so focussed on their victimhood that they had no other time for anything else..

    How refreshing..

  34. Christina Says:

    OOOOH!!!

    Another snarky anti-fem woman 🙂

    I liked the post. It was definitly a different look at it 🙂

    Art-something,

    What you quoted was very intriguing, as you say especially with what was written about homosexuals and Hitler.

    Didn’t read the entire thing, but I will definitly get around to it 🙂

    MCW, glad I found you 🙂

  35. Christina Says:

    OOOOH!!!

    Another snarky anti-fem woman 🙂

    I liked the post. It was definitly a different look at it 🙂

    Art-something,

    What you quoted was very intriguing, as you say especially with what was written about homosexuals and Hitler.

    Didn’t read the entire thing, but I will definitly get around to it 🙂

    MCW, glad I found you 🙂

  36. Christina Says:

    OOOOH!!!

    Another snarky anti-fem woman 🙂

    I liked the post. It was definitly a different look at it 🙂

    Art-something,

    What you quoted was very intriguing, as you say especially with what was written about homosexuals and Hitler.

    Didn’t read the entire thing, but I will definitly get around to it 🙂

    MCW, glad I found you 🙂

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