Marital Rights

Out of morbid curiosity, I moseyed by the Errant Wife’s blog to see if she had noticed Roissy’s post about her, and if she’d responded.

Boy, did she ever.

Here’s a sample:

Their insults seem to culminate in dire predictions: that my husband will leave me and no one else will ever want to marry me, telling all women that if my way is the way no man will want to marry them, that they will be single mothers, that there will be mass killings (seriously?) – interesting that they associate the threat of not being married with the threat of murder.

She says “seriously?” Suddenly I understand feminists so much better. They imagine that they can indulge in all the destructive, self-centered, hurtful behavior they wish, and men will not be inspired to similar destructiveness and self-centeredness. Apparently they think men have far more self-control and compassion for others than women do.

Because what is a woman, after all, unless a man owns her? If I don’t have a man how can my life have value?

Remember the quotations from her blog I posted a few days ago? They indicate that she doesn’t think she or her life has any value. She said it herself.

It is not so much that I cheat that is their problem, but that I do not obey the man that owns me – and don’t mistake it, this is about ownership. He pays the bills, it is his house – I deny him sex and I fuck other men. But, he should be entitled to sex, after all he pays for it with the wedding ring – I am, to be clear, his object.

This reminded me of a political cartoon I had forgotten. A few years back there was a big kerfluffle in all the editorials and stuff because Republicans were trying to resist attempts to give the shiftless scum on welfare even more of the money that belongs to those who work for it. Naturally, some leftist cartoonist didn’t see that when the money you work for is stolen from you, that makes you a slave. So he drew a cartoon that basically said that when Republicans refuse to let more of their money be stolen and given to those who don’t work for it, their next step is to bring back slavery.

The left believes that being expected to behave morally is slavery. Being expected to fulfill your obligations or fulfill contracts into which you have entered is slavery. Being expected not to harm the people around you is slavery. Basically, any restraint at all upon your behavior is slavery.

Meanwhile, Theodore Dalrymple has written one of his excellent columns on what happens to the children of sluts. “The first was that of Baby P (unnamed for legal reasons), a 17-month-old child done to death by his mother, her boyfriend, and a lodger. Only the fact that it was impossible to tell which of them had actually killed the child prevented their conviction for murder.” And, “The second case involved Shannon Matthews, whose story—what parts of it were then known—I also related previously in City Journal. Earlier this month, her mother Karen went on trial for maltreating her. According to the prosecutor, Karen, who has seven children by five different men and who lives entirely on Social Security, organized the kidnapping, drugging, and sequestration of nine-year-old Shannon, in concert with the uncle of her current boyfriend. It turns out that the object of their plot was to raise $75,000 by public appeal for knowledge of the whereabouts of Shannon, who was later to be released and then “found” by the uncle, who would claim the reward…. Karen Matthews offered to have sex with one of the police officers who came to her house during the search.”

Anyway. I was thinking of the Errant Wife and the Radical feminist who’s getting married.

Women like these are why it is so vitally important for the law to continue to protect the rights and prerogatives of husbands. Certainly a pussy-whipped fiance might be besotted or inexperienced enough to espouse feminist notions and promise that he won’t behave like, well, like a husband. But once they’re married and he experiences the reality of marriage to a self-centered tramp, will he be able to resist taking advantage of the authority the law (should) give him? When his children are being neglected and abused, will he not find the justification he needs to break the promise of his foolish youth?

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18 Responses to “Marital Rights”

  1. The_Editrix Says:

    I am not American, so forgive me if this may sound naive: Is that thang for real? It’s simply too boring for a huge joke, but maybe it’s a schoolgirl or somebody else pulling off a bad act as an errant wife for whatever reason. IF it is for real, I have never seen anything QUITE that shitty and dumb at once.

  2. The_Editrix Says:

    I am not American, so forgive me if this may sound naive: Is that thang for real? It’s simply too boring for a huge joke, but maybe it’s a schoolgirl or somebody else pulling off a bad act as an errant wife for whatever reason. IF it is for real, I have never seen anything QUITE that shitty and dumb at once.

  3. The_Editrix Says:

    I am not American, so forgive me if this may sound naive: Is that thang for real? It’s simply too boring for a huge joke, but maybe it’s a schoolgirl or somebody else pulling off a bad act as an errant wife for whatever reason. IF it is for real, I have never seen anything QUITE that shitty and dumb at once.

  4. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    I have no way of verifying this woman’s claims, but I’ve personally witnessed behavior, and heard verified accounts of behavior, that leads me to have no reason to doubt that she’s for real.

    For what it’s worth, her alternating admissions that she’s depressed and on medication alternating with shrill assertions that she’s happy and fulfilled being a slut, have the ring of truth to me. I’ve known very promiscuous people who gave the same kinds of inconsistent messages.

  5. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    I have no way of verifying this woman’s claims, but I’ve personally witnessed behavior, and heard verified accounts of behavior, that leads me to have no reason to doubt that she’s for real.

    For what it’s worth, her alternating admissions that she’s depressed and on medication alternating with shrill assertions that she’s happy and fulfilled being a slut, have the ring of truth to me. I’ve known very promiscuous people who gave the same kinds of inconsistent messages.

  6. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    I have no way of verifying this woman’s claims, but I’ve personally witnessed behavior, and heard verified accounts of behavior, that leads me to have no reason to doubt that she’s for real.

    For what it’s worth, her alternating admissions that she’s depressed and on medication alternating with shrill assertions that she’s happy and fulfilled being a slut, have the ring of truth to me. I’ve known very promiscuous people who gave the same kinds of inconsistent messages.

  7. The_Editrix Says:

    Not that we do NOT have our share of shitty people here and feminism is slowly creeping in as well, but it hasn’t by far got this vile, all-encompassing, stifling quality — yet.

    I have only been to America once and that was on a holiday. I have never worked, studied or lived there for any length of time, but, of course, the media and the Internet can be valuable sources of information if one looks at the right places and draws the right conclusions. So here goes my theory: America is a young country with a relatively recent frontier past. Not longer than 200 or 150 years ago, women must have been a rare and precious “commodity” (for want of a better word) in the old West, and somehow along the way they must have forgotten that that is not the case anymore. They are still claiming a rarity and preciousness they certainly don’t possess anymore.

    Also, I always marvel at the existence of proms and beauty pageants and specifically how anything like that is possible in a country so mercilessly controlled by feminism. Don’t get me wrong, I am not advocating a sloven appearance. American woman are so much better groomed than we are. I admire that and have frequently taken advantage of it at eBay. But between a well-groomed appearance and those artifial zombies lies a world of difference.

    Maybe those spectacles have some faint roots in the frontier tradition as well, competing to get the most promising male and all that. Another case in point would be the obscene wedding industry in your country. A young couple crippling themselves finacially for a wedding of which the dress is a major item would be unthinkable here.

    I have written about feminism, for example, here:
    http://tinyurl.com/ozw6rl
    http://tinyurl.com/q7pb9z
    http://tinyurl.com/pc7jwy
    http://tinyurl.com/pveagw

    Let me know what you think and correct me if and where I am wrong.

  8. The_Editrix Says:

    Not that we do NOT have our share of shitty people here and feminism is slowly creeping in as well, but it hasn’t by far got this vile, all-encompassing, stifling quality — yet.

    I have only been to America once and that was on a holiday. I have never worked, studied or lived there for any length of time, but, of course, the media and the Internet can be valuable sources of information if one looks at the right places and draws the right conclusions. So here goes my theory: America is a young country with a relatively recent frontier past. Not longer than 200 or 150 years ago, women must have been a rare and precious “commodity” (for want of a better word) in the old West, and somehow along the way they must have forgotten that that is not the case anymore. They are still claiming a rarity and preciousness they certainly don’t possess anymore.

    Also, I always marvel at the existence of proms and beauty pageants and specifically how anything like that is possible in a country so mercilessly controlled by feminism. Don’t get me wrong, I am not advocating a sloven appearance. American woman are so much better groomed than we are. I admire that and have frequently taken advantage of it at eBay. But between a well-groomed appearance and those artifial zombies lies a world of difference.

    Maybe those spectacles have some faint roots in the frontier tradition as well, competing to get the most promising male and all that. Another case in point would be the obscene wedding industry in your country. A young couple crippling themselves finacially for a wedding of which the dress is a major item would be unthinkable here.

    I have written about feminism, for example, here:
    http://tinyurl.com/ozw6rl
    http://tinyurl.com/q7pb9z
    http://tinyurl.com/pc7jwy
    http://tinyurl.com/pveagw

    Let me know what you think and correct me if and where I am wrong.

  9. The_Editrix Says:

    Not that we do NOT have our share of shitty people here and feminism is slowly creeping in as well, but it hasn’t by far got this vile, all-encompassing, stifling quality — yet.

    I have only been to America once and that was on a holiday. I have never worked, studied or lived there for any length of time, but, of course, the media and the Internet can be valuable sources of information if one looks at the right places and draws the right conclusions. So here goes my theory: America is a young country with a relatively recent frontier past. Not longer than 200 or 150 years ago, women must have been a rare and precious “commodity” (for want of a better word) in the old West, and somehow along the way they must have forgotten that that is not the case anymore. They are still claiming a rarity and preciousness they certainly don’t possess anymore.

    Also, I always marvel at the existence of proms and beauty pageants and specifically how anything like that is possible in a country so mercilessly controlled by feminism. Don’t get me wrong, I am not advocating a sloven appearance. American woman are so much better groomed than we are. I admire that and have frequently taken advantage of it at eBay. But between a well-groomed appearance and those artifial zombies lies a world of difference.

    Maybe those spectacles have some faint roots in the frontier tradition as well, competing to get the most promising male and all that. Another case in point would be the obscene wedding industry in your country. A young couple crippling themselves finacially for a wedding of which the dress is a major item would be unthinkable here.

    I have written about feminism, for example, here:
    http://tinyurl.com/ozw6rl
    http://tinyurl.com/q7pb9z
    http://tinyurl.com/pc7jwy
    http://tinyurl.com/pveagw

    Let me know what you think and correct me if and where I am wrong.

  10. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    Editrix,

    Those were some very good posts.

    I’m afraid I can’t agree with your theory about the Old West. It is true that white women were at a premium there, and of course at that time the white frontiersmen considered Indian and Mexican women as only good for recreational sex. Depending on which area and what year she went out West, a white woman could count on marriage proposals within 30 seconds of getting off the train. I once read a very touching account of how these tough cowboys and claimsteaders vied for a turn at babysitting. They would just stand for hours, gazing steadily at someone else’s children playing outside. Seeing the young of your own people around is normal, and however indifferent men may be to children in a civilization, when he is far away from one, it awakens a soul’s hunger in him.

    However, this was only in what are now contemptuously known as the “flyover states”. Feminism took root in the big cities, which are mostly on the coasts and which haven’t had a shortage of women in many centuries, if ever.

    I think it’s more likely that American feminists see themselves as continuing the American tradition of “liberation”: we fought for independence from England and allowed all men over 21 to vote, then a war was fought to free the slaves, then heroic women won the right to vote, etc. We can dispute if that’s really the best interpretation of history, but that’s the version in our popular media and elementary school textbooks.

    Proms are actually going out of style. They still exist, and I’d guess they’re more popular in some parts of the country than others such as smaller towns, but a couple of years ago I read an article saying that prom attendance was declining sharply.

    I think beauty contests linger partly because no amount of feminist activism can change the fact that women like to show off their looks, if they have them. Really, for most young women, what feminism has achieved is that they think they can roam around in revealing clothes and heavy makeup and still expect to be taken seriously as minds.

    Still, while pageants do exist, they aren’t really a very important part of our culture. Try asking the Americans you know to name a Miss America. I’ll bet the only ones they can think of are Anita Bryant, who is remembered for her anti-gay activism, and Vanessa Williams, who no one would remember if those sexy pictures of her hadn’t been released. Since that happened, the only time I’ve been even peripherally aware of any pageant was when the blogosphere had its recent hysterics over Miss California (see? I can’t even remember her name) saying she doesn’t believe in gay marriage. Her answer was too stammering to be planned, in my opinion, but nonetheless, I think it was a lucky break for her; the notoreity will get her modeling jobs or whatever it is she wants long after the winner is forgotten – actually, the winner already is forgotten. I have no idea who she is or even what state she represents.

    Our extravagant weddings also have, I believe, a different origin from your guess. I have to digress and say that big weddings existed a century ago, here and in Canada and I assume in Europe, but it was a different thing then. A “big wedding” meant a beautiful dress and a feast, and maybe a dance. Not cheap, but nothing like what goes on these days.

    Also, in Benazir Bhutto’s autobiography, she says that Pakistani families often put themselves into debt with their weddings, so she had a simpler one to try to set an example. If that’s true, it isn’t just us.

    American weddings got this huge after the women’s movement, so I’m thinking that it’s partly just another way in which we’ve come to indulge women. It’s only natural for a woman to want some to-do over such an important occasion, but in the past, family, groom and money kept this in reasonable limits.

    Technology is another reason for this. There just wasn’t as much to spend the money on. Now there’s photographers, videographers, copies of the photos for everyone, flying people from all over the world, amplifiers for the band, and I don’t even know what else.

    Finally, and maybe the most importantly, there’s the prosperity we’ve enjoyed since the 50’s. We had a lot of money, and we’re a creative people who glorify capitalism. For decades we’ve been figuring out every imaginable thing that people could spend their money on. Now that the economy’s collapsing, these ridiculously huge weddings are going to vanish.

  11. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    Editrix,

    Those were some very good posts.

    I’m afraid I can’t agree with your theory about the Old West. It is true that white women were at a premium there, and of course at that time the white frontiersmen considered Indian and Mexican women as only good for recreational sex. Depending on which area and what year she went out West, a white woman could count on marriage proposals within 30 seconds of getting off the train. I once read a very touching account of how these tough cowboys and claimsteaders vied for a turn at babysitting. They would just stand for hours, gazing steadily at someone else’s children playing outside. Seeing the young of your own people around is normal, and however indifferent men may be to children in a civilization, when he is far away from one, it awakens a soul’s hunger in him.

    However, this was only in what are now contemptuously known as the “flyover states”. Feminism took root in the big cities, which are mostly on the coasts and which haven’t had a shortage of women in many centuries, if ever.

    I think it’s more likely that American feminists see themselves as continuing the American tradition of “liberation”: we fought for independence from England and allowed all men over 21 to vote, then a war was fought to free the slaves, then heroic women won the right to vote, etc. We can dispute if that’s really the best interpretation of history, but that’s the version in our popular media and elementary school textbooks.

    Proms are actually going out of style. They still exist, and I’d guess they’re more popular in some parts of the country than others such as smaller towns, but a couple of years ago I read an article saying that prom attendance was declining sharply.

    I think beauty contests linger partly because no amount of feminist activism can change the fact that women like to show off their looks, if they have them. Really, for most young women, what feminism has achieved is that they think they can roam around in revealing clothes and heavy makeup and still expect to be taken seriously as minds.

    Still, while pageants do exist, they aren’t really a very important part of our culture. Try asking the Americans you know to name a Miss America. I’ll bet the only ones they can think of are Anita Bryant, who is remembered for her anti-gay activism, and Vanessa Williams, who no one would remember if those sexy pictures of her hadn’t been released. Since that happened, the only time I’ve been even peripherally aware of any pageant was when the blogosphere had its recent hysterics over Miss California (see? I can’t even remember her name) saying she doesn’t believe in gay marriage. Her answer was too stammering to be planned, in my opinion, but nonetheless, I think it was a lucky break for her; the notoreity will get her modeling jobs or whatever it is she wants long after the winner is forgotten – actually, the winner already is forgotten. I have no idea who she is or even what state she represents.

    Our extravagant weddings also have, I believe, a different origin from your guess. I have to digress and say that big weddings existed a century ago, here and in Canada and I assume in Europe, but it was a different thing then. A “big wedding” meant a beautiful dress and a feast, and maybe a dance. Not cheap, but nothing like what goes on these days.

    Also, in Benazir Bhutto’s autobiography, she says that Pakistani families often put themselves into debt with their weddings, so she had a simpler one to try to set an example. If that’s true, it isn’t just us.

    American weddings got this huge after the women’s movement, so I’m thinking that it’s partly just another way in which we’ve come to indulge women. It’s only natural for a woman to want some to-do over such an important occasion, but in the past, family, groom and money kept this in reasonable limits.

    Technology is another reason for this. There just wasn’t as much to spend the money on. Now there’s photographers, videographers, copies of the photos for everyone, flying people from all over the world, amplifiers for the band, and I don’t even know what else.

    Finally, and maybe the most importantly, there’s the prosperity we’ve enjoyed since the 50’s. We had a lot of money, and we’re a creative people who glorify capitalism. For decades we’ve been figuring out every imaginable thing that people could spend their money on. Now that the economy’s collapsing, these ridiculously huge weddings are going to vanish.

  12. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    Editrix,

    Those were some very good posts.

    I’m afraid I can’t agree with your theory about the Old West. It is true that white women were at a premium there, and of course at that time the white frontiersmen considered Indian and Mexican women as only good for recreational sex. Depending on which area and what year she went out West, a white woman could count on marriage proposals within 30 seconds of getting off the train. I once read a very touching account of how these tough cowboys and claimsteaders vied for a turn at babysitting. They would just stand for hours, gazing steadily at someone else’s children playing outside. Seeing the young of your own people around is normal, and however indifferent men may be to children in a civilization, when he is far away from one, it awakens a soul’s hunger in him.

    However, this was only in what are now contemptuously known as the “flyover states”. Feminism took root in the big cities, which are mostly on the coasts and which haven’t had a shortage of women in many centuries, if ever.

    I think it’s more likely that American feminists see themselves as continuing the American tradition of “liberation”: we fought for independence from England and allowed all men over 21 to vote, then a war was fought to free the slaves, then heroic women won the right to vote, etc. We can dispute if that’s really the best interpretation of history, but that’s the version in our popular media and elementary school textbooks.

    Proms are actually going out of style. They still exist, and I’d guess they’re more popular in some parts of the country than others such as smaller towns, but a couple of years ago I read an article saying that prom attendance was declining sharply.

    I think beauty contests linger partly because no amount of feminist activism can change the fact that women like to show off their looks, if they have them. Really, for most young women, what feminism has achieved is that they think they can roam around in revealing clothes and heavy makeup and still expect to be taken seriously as minds.

    Still, while pageants do exist, they aren’t really a very important part of our culture. Try asking the Americans you know to name a Miss America. I’ll bet the only ones they can think of are Anita Bryant, who is remembered for her anti-gay activism, and Vanessa Williams, who no one would remember if those sexy pictures of her hadn’t been released. Since that happened, the only time I’ve been even peripherally aware of any pageant was when the blogosphere had its recent hysterics over Miss California (see? I can’t even remember her name) saying she doesn’t believe in gay marriage. Her answer was too stammering to be planned, in my opinion, but nonetheless, I think it was a lucky break for her; the notoreity will get her modeling jobs or whatever it is she wants long after the winner is forgotten – actually, the winner already is forgotten. I have no idea who she is or even what state she represents.

    Our extravagant weddings also have, I believe, a different origin from your guess. I have to digress and say that big weddings existed a century ago, here and in Canada and I assume in Europe, but it was a different thing then. A “big wedding” meant a beautiful dress and a feast, and maybe a dance. Not cheap, but nothing like what goes on these days.

    Also, in Benazir Bhutto’s autobiography, she says that Pakistani families often put themselves into debt with their weddings, so she had a simpler one to try to set an example. If that’s true, it isn’t just us.

    American weddings got this huge after the women’s movement, so I’m thinking that it’s partly just another way in which we’ve come to indulge women. It’s only natural for a woman to want some to-do over such an important occasion, but in the past, family, groom and money kept this in reasonable limits.

    Technology is another reason for this. There just wasn’t as much to spend the money on. Now there’s photographers, videographers, copies of the photos for everyone, flying people from all over the world, amplifiers for the band, and I don’t even know what else.

    Finally, and maybe the most importantly, there’s the prosperity we’ve enjoyed since the 50’s. We had a lot of money, and we’re a creative people who glorify capitalism. For decades we’ve been figuring out every imaginable thing that people could spend their money on. Now that the economy’s collapsing, these ridiculously huge weddings are going to vanish.

  13. The_Editrix Says:

    MCW, thanks for your kind words about my writing and even more for the explanations and the deflation of my theory. Seems I have watched The Hallelujah Trail once too often. This is terrifically important to me precisely because I have never been to America for any length of time. Affluence has certainly to do with it. The German people were just too busy to rebuild their country after WWII to indulge their women. However, there is more about it. Now my pretty frontier-theory is busted, I have to think of a new one. The “liberation” aspect makes sense to me, also, we are probably the most provincial people on earth, so faddish modern trends don’t go down here very well, which is, in this case, good.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love weddings and have a “thing” for beautiful wedding dresses, in fact, that was how I became aware of the “industry” at your end in the first place. Again, here, apart from glossy magazine scum, only traditional country people have big weddings, or the former ruling families of the German princedoms.

  14. The_Editrix Says:

    MCW, thanks for your kind words about my writing and even more for the explanations and the deflation of my theory. Seems I have watched The Hallelujah Trail once too often. This is terrifically important to me precisely because I have never been to America for any length of time. Affluence has certainly to do with it. The German people were just too busy to rebuild their country after WWII to indulge their women. However, there is more about it. Now my pretty frontier-theory is busted, I have to think of a new one. The “liberation” aspect makes sense to me, also, we are probably the most provincial people on earth, so faddish modern trends don’t go down here very well, which is, in this case, good.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love weddings and have a “thing” for beautiful wedding dresses, in fact, that was how I became aware of the “industry” at your end in the first place. Again, here, apart from glossy magazine scum, only traditional country people have big weddings, or the former ruling families of the German princedoms.

  15. The_Editrix Says:

    MCW, thanks for your kind words about my writing and even more for the explanations and the deflation of my theory. Seems I have watched The Hallelujah Trail once too often. This is terrifically important to me precisely because I have never been to America for any length of time. Affluence has certainly to do with it. The German people were just too busy to rebuild their country after WWII to indulge their women. However, there is more about it. Now my pretty frontier-theory is busted, I have to think of a new one. The “liberation” aspect makes sense to me, also, we are probably the most provincial people on earth, so faddish modern trends don’t go down here very well, which is, in this case, good.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love weddings and have a “thing” for beautiful wedding dresses, in fact, that was how I became aware of the “industry” at your end in the first place. Again, here, apart from glossy magazine scum, only traditional country people have big weddings, or the former ruling families of the German princedoms.

  16. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    Editrix,

    This post, in which Roissy crudely but insightfully explains outrageously expensive weddings, may be of interest to you.

  17. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    Editrix,

    This post, in which Roissy crudely but insightfully explains outrageously expensive weddings, may be of interest to you.

  18. Male Chauvinist Woman Says:

    Editrix,

    This post, in which Roissy crudely but insightfully explains outrageously expensive weddings, may be of interest to you.

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