Why feminists claim rape has no connection to sex

Lately I’ve been seeing a lot of feminists (Isis the Scientist is one example, the Errant Wife is another) shrilly insisting that women should be able to wear provocative clothing without having men ogle them, or that women whoring around will not inspire violence.

I think I’ve figured out why they’re making these extraordinary claims.

Half Sigma and Roissy both recently presented evidence that there is less rape when porn is readily available. Both of them argued that this is evidence that contrary to what feminists say, rape is primarily about sex, not power.

In his awesome book The Blank Slate, Steven Pinker exhaustively supports the idea that, contrary to what feminists claim, rape is about sex, not power. One point he makes is that men will do pretty much anything else you can imagine for sex, why wouldn’t they use force?

There are exceptions. I slightly know a fat, homely, middle-aged woman who was raped last year. The culprit has apparently raped other women of similarly low attractiveness. Why does he target this type of woman? I have no idea. This guy is the exception, though. Most rapists target fertile women.

Statistics show that women in their teens, 20’s and 30’s – i.e., women who are the most fertile and the most likely to be attractive – get raped more than anyone else.

Part of this is the same deranged liberal egalitarianism that likes to pretend that all groups of people are at equal risk for everything, except when it suits them politically to say otherwise. For instance, pamphlets and websites about domestic violence often list the “myths” (known as “facts” to the non-PC) about DV, and usually one of these “myths” is that poor, lower-class, nonwhite women are more likely to be battered than white middle-class women. This is a fact, but for various reasons, DV hucksters need people to believe that respectable women with nice middle-class decent guy husbands are being beaten up at the same rate as inner-city crack users who date gang members. You know, because all penis-havers are equally evil.

Feminists need to separate sex from rape because that’s the only way they can defend women’s “right” to sashay around in provocative clothing, including late at night in bad neighborhoods. Does a woman who does that deserve to get raped? Absolutely not. Is it a high probability that she will be? Yes, it is.

An analogy: suppose that when I go into the grocery store, I leave my wallet, with fifty-dollar bills sticking out of it, on the seat of my car. Do I deserve to have that wallet stolen? Of course not. Would anybody be at all surprised or sympathetic if someone did steal it? Of course not.

Basically, feminists want women relieved of all responsibility. They tell women they have a “right” to do foolhardy things, then insist that there’s no connection between, say, provocative clothing and rape. Does a woman have a “right” to wear a miniskirt and halter top? Of course she does. Does such attire make her more likely to be raped if she’s not careful where she goes and with whom? Of course it does. A woman who wears such things, especially if she’s not in a peaceful neighborhood and with trusted friends, is being stupid.

This is related to a few women’s magazine articles I read years ago. I read Cosmo and Glamour when I was a teenager, because they have articles about sex and teenagers are naturally curious about sex. Once I had had some sex myself, I stopped reading them, because those magazines are really stupid.

Anyway, I remember a couple of articles they published about rape. In one, a woman related that a man she had been “dating casually” showed up at her apartment unannounced. He started kissing her. She says she was “too frightened” to stop him or protest, even though she admitted that he didn’t threaten her in any way. She lay passively letting him have his way with her. Afterwards, he said, “That would’ve been better if you had, you know, got into it.” She finished, “It was years before I realized that it was RAPE! Sex to any unwilling partner is rape!” Well, how the hell was he supposed to know she was unwilling? Feminists had at that point spent years telling the world that women wanted to have active sex lives just like men!

Another article: after a date, a woman invited the man into her apartment. While she was pouring some wine, he came up behind her and started kissing her. She said something like, “Don’t, I’ll spill the wine.” He said, “Let it spill,” and embraced her. She submitted without any further protest. She too took years to decide that this was rape.

Yet another, hauntingly remniscent of the Mike Tyson case, though this guy was far more guilty than Mike: a co-ed spent the night in bed with her college boyfriend. She was wearing a short nightgown and no underwear. She had told him repeatedly that she wasn’t going to have sex with him. Before they went to sleep, he kept moving his hands up her thighs and she kept telling him to stop. Then she went to sleep. She woke up when he penetrated her. She screamed. He kept on. Now, I suppose this one does qualify as rape, but this woman was behaving with incredible stupidity. (Thankfully, one letter to the editor did point this out.) He behaved wrongly, but really. What was this woman thinking? Did she really think that she could spend the night in bed with a man who had made it clear that he wanted to have sex with her, wearing a shortie nightgown, and still be a virgin in the morning? See, all those hidebound rules about how nice girls behave around boys – i.e., not spending the night in bed with them without any underwear on – was to protect stupid bimbos, and the hapless males they date, from exactly this sort of thing. I doubt this young man believed he was committing rape. She was sending out extremely mixed signals, and he was a college-age male flush with hormones.

Guys, if you find yourselves with a woman who’s behaving like this, running hot and cold, getting into bed with you and declaring that she’s not going to have sex with you, walk away. She’s a headcase and you will rue the day even if you don’t lay a finger on her.

As F. Roger Devlin pointed out, feminists want men to behave, not like gentlemen, but like dildos.

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8 Responses to “Why feminists claim rape has no connection to sex”

  1. Derek Says:

    A women dressing provocatively or acting provocatively sends signals that she is wants to mate. It's a real pain in the butt to have to pretend I am not turned on by such displays.

    It's kind of a game: She pretends she is not telling everyone to come sleep with her and I pretend that the signals she is sending are not turning me on. I learned a long time ago to be professional no mater how women around me dress.

    Now it's not a bad thing that men are trained to resist such displays, but hell, why keep making them more and more provocative? Do women enjoy torturing guys? It's really hard to focus on work and other things when you have such things in your face.

    However, I am not excusing rapists. Such men have either poorly developed self control or they come from a culture that's fine with raping a women from the "other" group. We control men and we used to control women for a reason: To allow the best lives for everyone that we can provide.

    On the other hand, part of rape is ownership (sex for that mater too). A common thing in pre-history was a women being raped and then brought back to the group as a new wife. So I don't think feminists are 100% wrong when they say rape is about power (just a much, much smaller portion than they believe).

  2. Derek Says:

    A women dressing provocatively or acting provocatively sends signals that she is wants to mate. It's a real pain in the butt to have to pretend I am not turned on by such displays.

    It's kind of a game: She pretends she is not telling everyone to come sleep with her and I pretend that the signals she is sending are not turning me on. I learned a long time ago to be professional no mater how women around me dress.

    Now it's not a bad thing that men are trained to resist such displays, but hell, why keep making them more and more provocative? Do women enjoy torturing guys? It's really hard to focus on work and other things when you have such things in your face.

    However, I am not excusing rapists. Such men have either poorly developed self control or they come from a culture that's fine with raping a women from the "other" group. We control men and we used to control women for a reason: To allow the best lives for everyone that we can provide.

    On the other hand, part of rape is ownership (sex for that mater too). A common thing in pre-history was a women being raped and then brought back to the group as a new wife. So I don't think feminists are 100% wrong when they say rape is about power (just a much, much smaller portion than they believe).

  3. Derek Says:

    A women dressing provocatively or acting provocatively sends signals that she is wants to mate. It's a real pain in the butt to have to pretend I am not turned on by such displays.

    It's kind of a game: She pretends she is not telling everyone to come sleep with her and I pretend that the signals she is sending are not turning me on. I learned a long time ago to be professional no mater how women around me dress.

    Now it's not a bad thing that men are trained to resist such displays, but hell, why keep making them more and more provocative? Do women enjoy torturing guys? It's really hard to focus on work and other things when you have such things in your face.

    However, I am not excusing rapists. Such men have either poorly developed self control or they come from a culture that's fine with raping a women from the "other" group. We control men and we used to control women for a reason: To allow the best lives for everyone that we can provide.

    On the other hand, part of rape is ownership (sex for that mater too). A common thing in pre-history was a women being raped and then brought back to the group as a new wife. So I don't think feminists are 100% wrong when they say rape is about power (just a much, much smaller portion than they believe).

  4. Learn Hexadecimal Says:

    I was going to comment here, but then I decided to guest post on my friend's blog instead.

  5. Learn Hexadecimal Says:

    I was going to comment here, but then I decided to guest post on my friend's blog instead.

  6. Learn Hexadecimal Says:

    I was going to comment here, but then I decided to guest post on my friend's blog instead.

  7. Pete Patriarch Says:

    LearnHexadecimal, you're a fucking coward, running away from the blog where the article is, to a third-party blog all because you're afraid of somebody holding a worldview other than your own.This isn't a feminist blog where any coherent or eloquent disagreements are deleted, so you have no excuse for not commenting here. stand your ground like a man!

  8. Female Misogynist Says:

    Pete, thank you, but I actually banned hexadecimal from this site – after approving several comments he made on other posts here. He declared on his own blog that women should go ahead and undress and get into bed with men they didn't want to have sex with, apparently on the grounds that nearly all men are so enlightened that they won't take advantage of such a situation.On one of the threads he was trolling over at Spearhead, a male MRA upbraided him for that! As usual, the male chauvinists are denouncing creeps who attempt to endanger women, and the feminists are doing all they can to imperil foolish women.

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